Legislature(2005 - 2006)Anch LIO Conf Rm

08/29/2005 01:30 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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01:43:05 PM Start
01:44:34 PM Status of Personal Care Attendant Regulations
01:50:16 PM HB303
02:30:44 PM HB271
05:13:48 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 271 LIMIT OVERTIME FOR REGISTERED NURSES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= Status of Personal Care Attendant regs TELECONFERENCED
*+ HB 303 ADULT COMPANION SERVICES WAIVER (report) TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ State of Long-Term Care Study TELECONFERENCED
HB 303-ADULT COMPANION SERVICES WAIVER                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:50:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  303,  "An  Act  expanding  reimbursable  waiver                                                               
services  under Medicaid  waivers for  older Alaskans  and adults                                                               
with physical  disabilities to include adult  companion services;                                                               
and  relating to  legislative intent  concerning eligibility  and                                                               
coverage for personal care attendant services."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:51:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JON SHERWOOD,  Medical Assistant Administrator IV,  Department of                                                               
Health  and  Social Services  (DHSS),  per  the chair's  request,                                                               
explained that a  Medicaid waiver is a device  allowed by federal                                                               
law to  bypass the normal  limits that federal  regulations would                                                               
impose on a state in operating  a Medicaid program.  Under normal                                                               
federal  law  certain  services   can  and  cannot  be  provided.                                                               
Therefore, a  waiver allows those  services not  normally allowed                                                               
under  federal law  to  be  provided with  some  conditions.   In                                                               
Alaska,  waivers are  usually home-  and community-based  service                                                               
waivers.   Under the home-  and community-based  services waiver,                                                               
the  state  is   allowed  to  provide  certain   services  as  an                                                               
alternative  to  nursing  home  care  and  institutions  for  the                                                               
mentally  retarded and  developmentally disabled.   Mr.  Sherwood                                                               
explained  that under  a  waiver,  the state  has  to define  the                                                               
services it  will offer, which  have to be reasonably  related to                                                               
meeting the needs of the target population.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD, in response to  Chair Wilson, specified that Alaska                                                               
has stayed  with standard  definitions, with  some modifications.                                                               
It's simpler  to use the federal  government's definition because                                                               
there is less review of it, he noted.   As part of the process of                                                               
submitting  a waiver,  the state  has  to specify  the number  of                                                               
people to be  served.  He highlighted that  waivers are different                                                               
from the rest  of Medicaid because under the rest  of Medicaid if                                                               
a  state meets  the basic  eligibility criteria,  the service  is                                                               
provided.  However,  under waivers, once the  state specifies the                                                               
number of  people it  will serve,  no more  people can  be served                                                               
even  if  the  eligibility  criteria is  met  because  the  state                                                               
wouldn't have the authority to add more people to the waiver.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:55:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHERWOOD, in  further response  to Chair  Wilson, said  that                                                               
people [beyond the  specified amount in the waiver]  can be added                                                               
any time during  the year as long as the  department has received                                                               
authority  from  the  federal   government  to  serve  additional                                                               
persons.  He  explained that part of what the  department does to                                                               
get a  waiver approved is  to show that  the waiver will  be cost                                                               
neutral in  that the department  won't spend more  on individuals                                                               
in  a   community  setting  than   it  would  for  those   in  an                                                               
institution.   A complicated formula  is offered as proof  of the                                                               
aforementioned.  Therefore, any time  the number of people served                                                               
is changed, that formula has to be resubmitted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD specified that Alaska has  four waivers.  There is a                                                               
waiver that serves  older Alaskans, those 65 years  and older who                                                               
meet nursing home level care.   Another waiver serves adults with                                                               
physical disabilities,  those between  the age of  21 and  64 who                                                               
meet  nursing  home  level  care.    Yet  another  waiver  serves                                                               
children  with  complex  medical conditions,  those  children  up                                                               
through the age  of 21 who would  be served by a  nursing home or                                                               
long-term  hospitalization.   Finally,  there  is  a waiver  that                                                               
serves   people  of   all  ages   with   mental  retardation   or                                                               
developmental disabilities which  meet the institutional standard                                                               
for  the Intermediate  Care Facility  for  the Mentally  Retarded                                                               
(ICFMR).  Mr.  Sherwood informed the committee that  at any given                                                               
time,  about 2,800  people on  waivers are  served.   He recalled                                                               
that  in  2005, a  little  under  3,600  people on  waivers  were                                                               
served.   These waivers have  been available since late  1993, he                                                               
noted.  Alaska  obtained waivers to serve people of  all ages for                                                               
both  nursing  home  and  ICFMR levels  of  care.    Furthermore,                                                               
Alaska's breadth  of services  is fairly wide,  he related.   For                                                               
instance, Alaska's  waivers offer care coordination,  payment for                                                               
services in  assisted living facilities, adult  day care, private                                                               
duty  nursing,  respite,  chores, meals,  social  transportation,                                                               
environmental modification,  specialized equipment  and supplies,                                                               
and  a  wide  range  of  habilitative  services  for  those  with                                                               
developmental  disabilities.    Mr.  Sherwood  related  that  the                                                               
companion service is probably the  only service not offered under                                                               
a waiver.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:00:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHERWOOD informed  the committee  that each  waiver requires                                                               
filling  out  a   document  that  is  60-80   pages  with  backup                                                               
materials.  The  initial approval period is three  years, and the                                                               
waivers are renewed every five years.   In fact, this fiscal year                                                               
the  department is  preparing for  renewal  for all  four of  the                                                               
waivers.  He explained that  before the waivers are renewed, they                                                               
must undergo  federal review,  which occurred  about a  year ago.                                                               
Based  on that  review, Mr.  Sherwood said  he expected  that the                                                               
department   will  have   to  provide   additional  documentation                                                               
regarding  the  department's  quality   assurance  methods.    He                                                               
related  that over  $100  million  was spent  on  the waivers  in                                                               
fiscal year  (FY) 05.   In conclusion,  Mr. Sherwood  opined that                                                               
Alaska  has  been  very  successful in  using  waivers  to  avoid                                                               
institutionalization.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:02:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON requested  a list  detailing the  services provided                                                               
under each waiver.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD agreed to do so.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:03:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET  CLARKE,  Assistant  Commissioner, Finance  and  Management                                                               
Services,  Department of  Health  and Social  Services, began  by                                                               
reviewing  HB  303.    Section 1  is  legislative  intent,  which                                                               
basically  addresses the  personal care  attendant program.   She                                                               
then  turned attention  to subsection  (b)  on page  2, line  28,                                                               
which  lays  out  the  intent  to  restore  the  nonmedical  care                                                               
supervision   and   socialization  services   through   companion                                                               
services.  Section 2 outlines  the direction from the legislature                                                               
to  seek assistance  for  an additional  waiver,  referred to  as                                                               
companion care  for services for  older Alaskans and  adults with                                                               
physical disabilities.   She opined  that the  committee probably                                                               
saw this language in legislation such as HB 125 and HB 193.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE  related  that  the  department  believes  that  it's                                                               
premature  to  pass  this  type of  legislation  at  this  point.                                                               
Currently, the  department is performing a  long-term care study,                                                               
which  will help  determine what  services are  necessary in  the                                                               
continuum of care.  To pass  this legislation before the study is                                                               
complete  is  a  bit  premature,  she  reiterated.    Ms.  Clarke                                                               
explained that  merely adding this  additional service on  top of                                                               
the existing  service system without  reviewing all of  the other                                                               
components,  some  inefficiencies  and  costs will  occur.    The                                                               
department has been taking steps  to look forward at the Medicaid                                                               
program, specifically a contractor has  been acquired to help the                                                               
department develop a better long-term  forecast for Medicaid.  As                                                               
part   of  that,   the  contractor   is  reviewing   the  state's                                                               
demographics and  outlining the  services being  used.   Based on                                                               
those demographics,  the contractor is relating  what the service                                                               
array will look like in  the future.  Furthermore, the department                                                               
is embarking on  the long-term care study.  She  opined that both                                                               
studies are  trying to help  the department  get a handle  on the                                                               
Medicaid budget  as well as  the program  itself.  The  hope, she                                                               
further opined, is to obtain advice  on how to best structure the                                                               
state's Medicaid program for the future.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:08:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARK turned attention to the draft fiscal note for HB 303.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:09:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  inquired as to when  the information from                                                               
the two contractors will be available.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE  answered that there should  definitely be information                                                               
regarding  the  long-term  forecast  for  Medicaid  available  by                                                               
January, but perhaps as early as  November.  In response to Chair                                                               
Wilson, Ms. Clarke agreed to provide  the chair with a summary of                                                               
the information when available.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD informed the committee  that the notice of intent to                                                               
award the  long-term care  study has been  issued.   He estimated                                                               
that  a contractor  will probably  be officially  on board  about                                                               
September  15th.   According  to  the terms  of  the request  for                                                               
proposals  (RFP),  the  final  report   should  be  available  by                                                               
February 10 although there may  be some interim information prior                                                               
to that.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:11:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CLARKE  referred to  page 1  of the draft  fiscal note.   The                                                               
fiscal  note  projects that  if  HB  303  were  to pass  and  the                                                               
department  implemented regulations  to add  the service  halfway                                                               
through the  fiscal year, in  FY 07  the cost would  be $759,600.                                                               
In FY  08, there would  be a full year  of costs for  the program                                                               
and  the cost  escalates forward  such  that in  2011 adding  the                                                               
service  would cost  over  $31  million.   In  response to  Chair                                                               
Wilson, Ms.  Clarke referred to  page 2  of the fiscal  note that                                                               
attempts to cost out companion services.   Part of the cost model                                                               
was that companion services wouldn't  replace any other services,                                                               
but  would be  in addition  to existing  services.   Furthermore,                                                               
[the  cost model]  would  allow the  primary  caregiver to  sleep                                                               
during normal  night-time hours when  the care recipient  may not                                                               
be left safely  alone.  The aforementioned is  a significant part                                                               
of the  cost.  Page 2  of the fiscal note  relates that currently                                                               
there  are  1,915 older  Alaskans  and  adults with  disabilities                                                               
receiving  waiver  services, of  those  about  570 reside  in  an                                                               
assisted living home  and thus wouldn't be  eligible.  Therefore,                                                               
the  1,345  is used  and  it's  estimated that  approximately  10                                                               
percent  of  those  would  have   caregivers  who  would  utilize                                                               
companion  services for  10 hours  a day  to allow  them to  work                                                               
full-time.   The  median  cost used  for  unskilled respite  care                                                               
workers  was $19.72  per hour.   For  overnight supervision,  the                                                               
assumption was that  10 percent of the 1,345  recipients would be                                                               
in need of  overnight companion services.  If  those were limited                                                               
to nine hours per evening and  three nights per week, the cost is                                                               
$3,737.70  for 135  recipients per  year.   Of the  approximately                                                               
1,200 recipients who don't qualify  for work-related or overnight                                                               
companion  services, the  department  estimates  that 90  percent                                                               
would utilize basic  companion services, limited to  10 hours per                                                               
week.  Ms. Clarke acknowledged  that the costs are startling, but                                                               
she opined that it does all add up.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:16:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE McGUIRE expressed interest  in the study reviewing                                                               
whether   there  is   a  population   currently   living  in   an                                                               
institution-like  setting who  could live  in a  home environment                                                               
with the  assistance of a  personal care attendant and  the adult                                                               
companion  services.     She  questioned   whether  any   of  the                                                               
aforementioned population would save the  state money or create a                                                               
neutral fiscal impact.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:17:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CLARKE clarified  that the  department didn't  calculate any                                                               
offsetting costs.  To qualify to be  in a nursing home one has to                                                               
meet the  nursing home level of  care.  She highlighted  that the                                                               
growth of  nursing homes  in Alaska  has really  been constrained                                                               
for the  last 10-15 years.   Prior  to the availability  of home-                                                               
and  community-based   services,  the  state's  only   source  of                                                               
services for  seniors were  nursing homes.    Ms.  Clarke related                                                               
the department's belief that there  will always be those who have                                                               
the  need  for  the  high  level  of  nursing  home  care.    She                                                               
reiterated that the state has  been lucky in maintaining a fairly                                                               
static  number  of  nursing  home   beds,  which  the  department                                                               
believes will continue in the future.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:19:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD addressed the question  regarding keeping people out                                                               
of  an  assisted  living home,  which  companion  services  would                                                               
probably  allow.   However, when  the individual  needs extensive                                                               
overnight  or daytime  supervision while  someone is  out of  the                                                               
house  working, the  wages for  the companion  would probably  be                                                               
comparable  to  personal  care/respite care  provider,  which  is                                                               
around $20.00 per  hour.  When providing companion  services on a                                                               
large scale, there isn't as much  of an economy of scale as would                                                               
be  achieved  in  an  assisted   living  home.    Therefore,  the                                                               
department doesn't  expect to  save money  by keeping  those with                                                               
more intensive  needs out  of assisted  living homes  and placing                                                               
them in companion  services.  Although there  might be individual                                                               
cases in which money would be  saved, there will also be cases in                                                               
which more money  would be spent.  Under the  waiver, there would                                                               
be an overall  cost neutrality because once a  service is offered                                                               
there isn't a  lot of ability to restrict the  service as long as                                                               
it's cheaper than an institution.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:22:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA  informed  the  committee  that  companion                                                               
services are  listed in the  regulations, although  such services                                                               
haven't  been  implemented.   The  aforementioned  would  make  a                                                               
difference in terms of the timing,  she opined.  She related that                                                               
she  has recently  been involved  in  workshops regarding  senior                                                               
services  from  which  she  has surmised  that  Alaska  is  going                                                               
through some of the same  things other states have experienced in                                                               
the past.   Other states  and the Legislative Legal  and Research                                                               
Services 2004  study have found  that the average  for [companion                                                               
care services]  is $50 or so  a day, which is  significantly less                                                               
than  nursing home  care.   She inquired  as to  the department's                                                               
comments on that.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:24:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHERWOOD  opined that the  department would agree  that home-                                                               
and  community-based services  are  significantly less  expensive                                                               
than  institutional  care.     However,  the  department  doesn't                                                               
believe companion services would  significantly reduce the amount                                                               
of institutional care for which  the [department] pays.  Already,                                                               
the [department]  does an impressive  job with regard  to serving                                                               
people through the  home and the community and  have a relatively                                                               
small percentage of  folks served in institutional care.   At any                                                               
given time,  of the 3,300  people [being served], only  about 500                                                               
are in  nursing homes.  Mr.  Sherwood related that the  home- and                                                               
community-based  system,  including   companion  services,  would                                                               
increase overall expenditures on  waivers that wouldn't be offset                                                               
by a decline in nursing home units.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:26:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA   related  that   she  has   received  the                                                               
sentiment of  confusion with regard  to the changes being  put in                                                               
place.   Therefore, she was  pleased to hear Ms.  Clarke's desire                                                               
not  to  include more  changes  before  a  study has  been  done.                                                               
Representative Cissna  then expressed  interest in how  the state                                                               
will increase  its efforts to make  decisions regarding Medicaid.                                                               
She opined that the changes  [from last summer and these proposed                                                               
today] are "incredibly brutal."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:28:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHERWOOD, in  response to  Representative Seaton,  said that                                                               
the large  effect of  companion services is  that it  would allow                                                               
people  to remain  in their  own home  versus an  assisted living                                                               
facility [or] a nursing home.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:30:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  surmised  that  there   are  many  questions,  and                                                               
therefore it would serve the  committee to wait until it receives                                                               
the reports before deciding what to do next.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[HB 303 was held over.]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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